I have received two irreducible conflicts for Oct. 20-21 and one for the earlier date (from Robert Dawson) which I copy here: I, along with a number of other Atlantic Canadians, will be in Sackville, NB on the 12-13-14 for the Science Atlantic (was APICS) math/stats meeting. Thus, the weekend after would be a better choice for us. I have to ask how many Atlantic Canadians this will impact? Also how about Oct. 27-28 or Sept. 29-30? How many feel Thanksgiving weekend creates a problem? Michael -- An ostrich is more intelligent than the average congressman. The ostrich does not bury its head in the sand. [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]