Does anybody know a reference for the following (very easy) result? Let C and D be categories, and let F:C-->D and G:D-->C be functors. If (c,theta) is an initial algebra for GF, then (Fc, F theta) is an initial algebra for FG. thanks, Paul
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:31:35 +0000 From: Paul Levy <P.B.Levy@cs.bham.ac.uk>
Does anybody know a reference for the following (very easy) result? Let C and D be categories, and let F:C-->D and G:D-->C be functors. If (c,theta) is an initial algebra for GF, then (Fc, F theta) is an initial algebra for FG.
It is mentioned as Proposition 5.3 of Alex Simpson and Gordon Plotkin, Complete Axioms for Categorical Fixed-point Operators, LICS 2000. Best Regards, Makoto Hamana
Dear Paul, I proved a "topical" version of this as Propn 2.3.7 in my "Topical Categories of Domains" (1999). "Topical" here means working in the 2-category of Grothendieck toposes and geometric morphisms instead of that of categories and functors. Instead of objects of a category and morphisms between them, it deals with points of a topos and natural transformations between them. (Note that I use the term "F-structures" instead of "F- algebras".) In this setting there are some subtleties of interpretation. An initial F-structure is defined as a point of the classifying topos [F- struct] for F-structures that is initial amongst all the generalized points - making [F-struct] a local topos. Nonetheless, the argument is essentially one that you might use with categories and functors. I remarked that my results were familiar from the category context as set out in Freyd's 1991 paper "Algebraically complete categories". I cannot remember if your result on FG-algebras and GF-algebras was in Freyd. All the best, Steve. On 28 Jan 2009, at 19:31, Paul Levy wrote:
Does anybody know a reference for the following (very easy) result?
Let C and D be categories, and let F:C-->D and G:D-->C be functors.
If (c,theta) is an initial algebra for GF, then (Fc, F theta) is an initial algebra for FG.
thanks, Paul
Does anybody know a reference for the following (very easy) result? Let C and D be categories, and let F:C-->D and G:D-->C be functors. If (c,theta) is an initial algebra for GF, then (Fc, F theta) is an initial algebra for FG.
It is in Section 5 of Peter Freyd Remarks on Algebraically Compact Categories, LMS LNS 177, 1992. (modulo initial invariant = initial algebra). The full dinaturality of initial algebra delivery (as a diagram of functors) is in Section 4 of Adam Eppendahl Coalgebra-to-algebra Morphisms, ENTCS 29, 1999. where it is seen to follow from the lemma: If p is a coalgebra for GF and s is an algebra for FG, then morphisms from Fp to s correspond one-for-one to morphisms from p to Gs (even without an adjunction between G and F). Adam Eppendahl
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